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Top Reviews Most recent Top Reviews. There was a problem filtering reviews right now. Please try again later. Paperback Verified download. I absolutely loved this book. I understand it can get repetitive with all the cases, but that is exactly the point.
There are trends and patterns. I can't really contribute anything new to what has already been said, there are many brilliantly written reviews here.
I like Paulides' investigative research of original sources, media research, and Freedom of information inquiries, one on one interviews for all the cases, etc. It is simply mindblowing how children and adults can vanish in the middle of nowhere. He does not mention crypto-zoology directly like bigfoot. But clearly there seems to be something very sinister happening.
Paulides cites many creepy, creepy cases where toddlers vanish and are found miles and miles away from where they disappeared, and sometimes even on mountain tops.
Sometimes found dead, sometimes even alive. Or groups of hikers and someone is out of sight for one minute, and bang they're just gone forever in a flash. Or the toddler taken from a camper, and the sleeping pets and siblings inside didn't even wake up, it was so fast and quiet. Of course millions of people visit forests and National Parks without incident. But these cases are so truly bizarre and strange. Some reviews are critical of Missing But basically they just dismiss it all outright, without providing any deconstructions of the actual cases.
There is just no explanation. Some of the missing in the book have been found, like the Jamison's in Oklahoma. But there is no explanation for what killed them or how they died. Keep watch over your children and family when in the wilderness and I will never go alone.
That's all I can say. Paulides is very persuasive in his point that there seems to be a coverup of sorts. I have read all of the book and will reread them again This book gives details of just that for the East US. An extensive wilderness search for a missing person that yields no results is mysterious -- and nothing more. It doesn't indicate that the missing person wasn't still in that wilderness somewhere, that they didn't have a heart attack, fall and break their neck, or meet with some other misadventure, and somehow, through sheer chance, wind up in a place that made it difficult for tired volunteers to find them.
It doesn't indicate that they were removed from the search area against their will by a sasquatch. I won't say that's not what happened in some cases -- just that in most of these cases there is insufficient evidence to finger sasquatch as the perp. Fact is, we don't know why these people acted as they did or why they disappeared.
If we did, these cases wouldn't be included in the book. Even worse, Paulides takes a decidedly paranormal bent in some of his writings. He mentions the opinions of psychics consulted in some of the disappearances, as if their thoughts could be of any relevance whatsoever. He also makes much of the fact that many of the disappearances were closely followed by bad storms, implying that somehow the coming foul weather caused the unsolved disappearance, or that people are more likely to vanish when a storm is coming, rather than the obvious explanation that severe weather impairs a search effort and makes it more likely the disappearance will go unsolved.
But all logical fallacies and motivated reasoning aside, the book commits one sin more egregious than all the others put together: it bored me. Some of the cases, especially those where a body was recovered, are shockingly titillating, but the majority are mind-numbingly routine after you've read a few of them.
Paulides tries to spice up his case narratives with folksy introductions, along the lines of "camping with your friends is the perfect way to spend a summer vacation from college. This problem isn't helped by the fact that for many of cases, we know next to nothing about the circumstances of the disappearance. In these instances, even Paulides' two paragraphs of summary feels like too much.
Towards the end of the book, I could feel my eyes glazing over. As a rule, I'm not a skimmer, even for non-fiction, but the temptation to get this book over with was very strong. Overall, I'm glad that I picked this book up to satisfy my burning curiosity, and maybe that satisfaction just barely pays for the time and money I spent.
The author is an ex-cop who became an investigative journalist. In this book he documents people who have disappeared mysteriously in the Western United States and Canada. The National Park Service refused to give him lists of missing people in their parks stating that they didn't keep records of missing people.
They say they rely on the memories of their employees. Hard to believe. They are either incompetent or they want to cover up the amount of people missing in the Fascinating read! They are either incompetent or they want to cover up the amount of people missing in their parks for fear they will lose revenue. The author did extensive research finding these cases, a lot of which are from newspaper articles and personal interviews. In an interview, the author states that the amount of missing people are probably double or triple the amount documented in these books there is a second book covering the Eastern United States.
Many of the people missing are children. In some areas, mainly women are missing and in other areas mainly men are missing.
The author doesn't speculate on who or what abducted these people or how they disappeared. The reader is left to make up his or her own mind. Some of these cases could be chalked up to serial killers, but you can rule that out on most of these cases. Could they have been abducted and eaten by Bigfoot? Abducted by Bigfoot, returned, and then eaten by animals? Sometimes partial clothes are missing, partial bones are missing, no blood found, pants found with one pant leg inside out, clothes folded neatly next to 2 pieces of bone, no footprints, footprints that suddenly disappear, toddlers found miles away within a hr period, toddlers found in good condition after being missing for 3 or 4 days with shoes missing in temperatures too cold to survive, etc.
Is it the fault of Bigfoot? Serial Killers? Satanic cults? They are very interesting mysteries, but sad for the families who lost loved ones. Some of these people are not even listed in the national missing persons database.
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They are just forgotten and the search for them has ceased. I was surprised to find that there are a lot of people missing in my own home state. There are probably a lot missing from your own state as well. The Texas and Florida missing are not listed in these books because there are so many missing in each of those states alone that they could fill up a whole book of their own. Nov 02, Adam Rodgers rated it it was amazing. Don't read while camping. This book was super interesting, but also really spooky.
It's a collection of case files of people, mostly children, that suddenly go missing around National Parks and the deep wilderness. Not an easy book to read since the cases are about actual people, but at least some of them end up finding the children alive and well.
The mysteries in the cases are tough to wrap your head around, but it is interesting that many of them have similar circumstances. Mar 18, Edwin rated it it was amazing. Why did I have to read this book it totally creeped me out! If David Paulides wanted me stay out of the woods he succeeded!! May 21, Kent rated it really liked it. Either the National Park Service is genuinely inept and doesn't keep a list of the hundreds of people who go missing in our nation's parks and therefore has no information to cross-reference when human skulls turn up or they know about all of the disappearances and strange deaths and refuse to do anything about them.
Neither scenario gives a person a good feeling about what is going on in this country. In any other law enforcement basic and logical protocols are followed as well that basic and l Either the National Park Service is genuinely inept and doesn't keep a list of the hundreds of people who go missing in our nation's parks and therefore has no information to cross-reference when human skulls turn up or they know about all of the disappearances and strange deaths and refuse to do anything about them.
In any other law enforcement basic and logical protocols are followed as well that basic and logical data is kept on deaths, disappearances, and strange happenings, but the National Park Service says that they don't keep data.
Whether it is truth or lie, the implication of such a stance is baffling and terrifying. This book is one hell of a mystery novel. Paulides has compiled information on odd disappearances nation wide and then split them into two books.
This is the Western U. He has kept a criteria for inclusion and also breaks the book down into clusters of disappearances. When all of the data is packed together nicely and presented this way it makes for a haunting tale. This book was particularly scary to me considering there are about 30 pages alone that deal with odd disappearances in the Mount Shasta area and I visit the area with my children every summer.
This book can't come more highly recommended to anyone who is interested in a true life mystery. I can effectively say that this book dashed any chances of me ever hiking alone, especially in California. Sep 26, Megan rated it it was amazing Shelves: A very enjoyable read from David Paulides!
I received an autographed copy from my mom for my birthday last year go Mom! I was intrigued by the cases Paulides had outlined, which ranged in fear factor from "well, that's unfortunate" to "okay, I think reading that just made me loose my bowels. Kind of like when your grandparents tell you about how they had to walk six miles to school in three feet of snow uphill both ways.
And to add to the strangeness of it all, these children were half naked, with not a mark on them, and no memory of how they had gotten there. Tell me you're not scratching your head, people.
I still am! We also read a case involving a bear, cases of missing persons having taken tremendous falls, cases of folks found dead due to exposure, and even some just plain missing and to this day have not yet been recovered.
All arguments of presentation and purpose aside, the cases of the missing folks in this one will have a lasting impression, and leave you a little mystified, a little scared, and feeling a little bit more knowledgeable about what mother nature really has to throw at us if we give her the chance. Kudos to you, David Paulides.
I will re-read this one until mother nature, bigfoot, or a serial killer come for me too.
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Aug 29, Toviel rated it it was ok Shelves: Most of the cases involve unexplained deaths or disappearances, but there are quite a few stories involving survivors, too. Is it berry-fixated serial killers or is it Bigfoot? The world will never know! It leads directly to the main problem in his writing: Case in point, Paulides looks at textbook descriptions of hypothermia at least ten times, only to come to the conclusion that the cases are incomprehensible.
Someone interested in real life mysteries might gleam some enjoyment from the book, but I hardly recommend it. May 15, Lindsay Mockenhaupt rated it it was ok. This book is quite ridiculous. Paulides opens the book by stating that everything in it is factual but constantly intersperses his opinions and queries throughout the pages. Apparently he has 20 years of experience in law enforcement but doesn't understand that a person in advanced stages of hypothermia will strip off layers of clothing and otherwise act in ways that are irrational to their situation.
He constantly questions why missing or dead people have taken off their clothing or made decisi This book is quite ridiculous. He constantly questions why missing or dead people have taken off their clothing or made decisions like climbing in elevation before succumbing to the elements. While there are several cases in the book that are interesting and seem like they could fall under the "unexplained" category, most of them can be explained away by logic and basic outdoor knowledge.
Paulides also seems to have a personal vendetta against the National Park Service and never fails to remark on how inept he believes they are. While his sentiments may be justified, the reader doesn't need to hear about it in every chapter. This book makes irrational connections and tries to makes it seem like any young man or woman who can pass as a man who ventures into the woods is likely to disappear by some strange force.
In my opinion Paulides is trying to cash in on the sad cases of people gone who are still being missed by their families.
Nov 29, Katherine Addison rated it it was ok Shelves: I have questions and observations. What does "dying of exposure" entail? I'm sure it depends on the location hypothermia vs. That's not a question aimed at Paulides; I just realized that I don't actually know. I got an excellent answer from a reader over on my patreon ; death from [library] Compilation of missing persons cases, with Paulides' commentary and portentous hints of what he won't say he thinks is going on.
I got an excellent answer from a reader over on my patreon ; death from exposure is what happens when the human body becomes unable to maintain its core temperature, either due to cold or heat. These books badly need a control study: He makes a big deal out of the times missing persons are found, dead or alive, in areas searchers have been over multiple times.
But I know from reading about the Green River murders that that does happen, even with searchers who are very careful and very thoroughg. So again, how unusual is this really? Human beings are incredibly bad at estimating time, which Paulides never acknowledges. So when someone says it was only a "few minutes" between the time they last checked on their child and the time they looked up and found the child missing.
Which is not a slam against the parents: He uses the word "coincidence" when what he means is "alleged coincidence that I think is a correlation," and he has NO sense of when a correlation is significant and when it isn't.
Partly this is because he's trying for the "even the most insignificant detail may be of critical importance" routine," but partly it's just that he can't tell. Now, there may be no important correlations between the disappearances of Amy Bechtel and Ann Wagner, but Paulides seems completely unaware of his own reductio ad absurdam.
Logical fallacies. One example, also from Amy Bechtel's case: That's just patently untrue. Dude cannot put a narrative together, and with as much practice as he's giving himself, that says maybe more than just practice is involved in learning to tell stories.
Saying you believe something to be true is not the same as proving that it is true.
He has this conspiracy theory about the National Park Service. Because, "Maybe the answer to this complex equation is that the NPS does not want the public to know how dangerous it is trekking alone in the backcountry of our national parks" , when the NPS goes to a great deal of trouble to try to persuade the public that it is dangerous Srsly, ppl, BEARS.
How hard is this to understand? I also didn't search for stories that mimicked each other. There was already an overwhelming amount of data that seemed to be cut from the same mold. Stories were not selected basked on their location; instead, they were chosen because they fit my criteria" xviii A. He says repeatedly that he doesn't have a hypothesis, but I guess we can call that as a lie.
He's so focused on his hypothesis that he won't admit he has that he routinely fails to consider more mundane explanations. He repeatedly insists that small children could not possibly have traveled the distance at which they were found in the time in which they were gone, but he also includes this detail in the case of Lorraine Smith, who disappeared at the age of 2 in from Lake Edith in Jasper National Park, Alberta, Canada: The article stated that they were surprised how easily he made his way through the forest" But Paulides doesn't seem to recognize there might be a wider application of this demonstration.
Lorraine Smith, like Amy Bechtel, was never found. Feb 28, Amelia rated it it was ok Shelves: Maybe my expectations were too high to begin with because I was excited by the subject matter, but this book isn't all that great.
It's not the content I have a problem with, it's the writing.
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This book is about a mans theory which he leaves unstated for the whole book therefore it should read a bit like a thesis. It should be well organized and concise. It should be objective. It should at least have been proofread for grammar once, if not twice. It is none of those things. I'm not sure if Pa Maybe my expectations were too high to begin with because I was excited by the subject matter, but this book isn't all that great. I'm not sure if Paulides has ever written a research paper but if I were to grade this the letter would be low.
Here's why: The organization of the chapters and their components is all over the place. Sometimes the cases are in order by year, sometimes by age, sometimes they don't appear to be in any particular order at all. They tend to be related by area but even then there will be a chapter about say, Idaho, and there will be a ton of cases from Washington State thrown in, even though there is a chapter for Washington. Paulides does say that this is because some of the cases have similar characteristics but he could have left them in their respective chapters and then summarized at the end.
Speaking of summaries, some cases have a summation of his thoughts on them at the end, some don't. This bothered me. Be consistent. Dave Paulides isn't very objective. He had a theory and that's totally fine, he's allowed to have his ideas, but if you're going to compile a book of cases that you think point to a specific type of disappearance, come out and say it was Sasquatch or Big Foot.
Don't just heavily imply it by using the same phrases like "very weird" "highly unusual" and "strange" over and over and over again.
He sounds like a broken record that isn't exactly sure what track is on the vinyl, but it maybe thinks it's a Jackson Five album. He acts like he's too good to be associated with his own thoughts. And, while we are on the subject of objectivity I would like to talk about credibility. Paulides states he doesn't believe in coincidence at all.
He'll throw together cases that happen years and years apart that both happened to happen within miles of each other and state they have to be related. He also states aspects of people's personalities like he knew them personally.
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But he does it in such a way that makes it sound like he's trying way too hard. He used phrases like "my jaw literally dropped" or things along those lines. The book reads like he is casually explaining an experience he had to someone who is interviewing him. It was off putting to read. And finally it just wasn't edited at all, yes I believe it was probably self published, but that doesn't mean you don't read through your work to make sure you're typing in full sentences or generally making good use of the English language.
You should also have someone else read for grammar before you send it off to print and then charge a crazy 25 dollars for it. It's too expensive for what it is, if you ask me, and I'm sorry I bought two of them at the same time.
I'm not sure if his other books are written this way, but if they are, they certainly aren't worth struggling through.
I have a very strong desire to rewrite the entire thing with better formatting and less weir use of opinion based language. It would be extremely satisfying. If you enjoy mystery go ahead and read it, the cases are very interesting to read about. Paulides makes it sound like disappearances are so strange and weird when they happen but the fact is is that they happen all the time, otherwise his books wouldn't exist. I think he has a hard time accepting this fact, but sometimes terrible things just happen.No one ever found a trace of her, not even one of her ski poles.
The topic of this book, however, is sketchy, to say the least. I'm interested in reading his Eastern US book next. site Payment Products. The obvious implication is that they were carried, then deposited where searchers eventually found them. At a minimum, this story deserves space on the front page of every newspaper in the country, and it warrants a formal high level inquiry by the federal agencies whose files leave little doubt that something very strange is unfolding in our wilderness.
He has this conspiracy theory about the National Park Service.
He'll throw together cases that happen years and years apart that both happened to happen within miles of each other and state they have to be related. The author was so determined that the information be made public that he self published this book.